This entry was written by Nikhil Jogia and was posted on on Thursday, June 6th, at pm and is filed under Buying Advice. You can follow any responses to this entry through the RSS 2. You can leave a response , or trackback from your own site. This is the first intelligible discussion of white gold and platinum that I have found.
My son Ian and I have bought diamond rings from you in the past and value your advice. Could you recommend a good jeweller? Kind regards Don. Hi Don Thanks for you comments.
Please ring us on or 08 so we can recommend a jeweller that is local to you. Might not you mean? Very descriptive and true, but you can easily remelt platinum or the like by wearing very dark glasses as for oxyacetylene welders operators, then on a crucible without any flux yo use the very center of the torch flame the hottest area and melts in seconds!
Hi Arpol, What would you recommend for diamond earrings? Platinum setting with white gold stems? Hi Cherie Platinum would be good for earrings, but the availability of pre-made Platinum earrings is very limited in Australia.
Hi Is it possible to have a 18kt yellow gold ring with platinum setting securing the diamond? The problem with the Jewellery Trade is, there are not enough Jewellers working in it. No Jeweller that has completed their trade course would give the wrong information about hardness and malleability as they would understand the structure and characteristics of the metals they use.
If you want to buy Jewellery of quality and know that you are getting what your paying for ask to speak to the Jeweller and ask to see their trade papers, any good Jeweller will be happy to oblige. I wanted to ask, My husband bought me an engagement ring for in We were told the crown that holds the diamond was made of Platinum because it was stronger and would hold the diamond in place much better than white or yellow gold.
One of the prongs bent after 9 years so I took the ring off and placed it in a safe place until I could take it in for repair. After inquiring about a reputable Jeweler to take the ring to we then gave them the ring. They inspected the ring and I told one of the employees that the crown was made of Platinum and one of the post bent and the diamond fell out. She then took the ring to the back to be inspected by the jeweler.
Two weeks went by and I had not heard from them. I called and she said they were waiting on a new crown to be shipped in. I said what crown… No one told me you were having to replace the crown. She said what no one called you and I said no. She put me on hold and came back and said there would not be any additional charge. Another week and a half went by and nothing so and I called them back and spoke with someone else.
He said he was still waiting on the crown but should have it ready by the following week. He said they were waiting on the white gold crown and it had been back ordered.
I told him the crown was made of Platinum and he told me no he thought it was made of white gold. He said I can do it in Platinum but it will cost you a He said if the ring was made of Platinum it would have had 18k with a pt inside the band.
He then gave me this speech of how much more durable the white gold was to set the the diamond into the crown.
I told him we were told Platinum was stronger for holding diamonds in place and he said well someone lied to you that is not so, white gold is stronger. Now I am suppose to pick the ring up tomorrow and am confused. All I cared about was making sure my diamond was secure. I am now scared because every thing I am reading it says the Platinum is stronger for holding the diamonds in place. How do I protect myself and is it true that Platinum is stronger for holding the diamond in place.
Also one other question.. Being a Jeweler would he not be able to tell the difference between white gold and Platinum.
He said you cannot tell the difference by looking at it. He said to even test it he would have to remove the crown away from the yellow gold band because with them together it would give a false reading.
Thank You Arlene Belk. Hi Arlene Your jeweller is right in saying if it was Platinum, there would be a Platinum stamp or hallmark inside the band, although the original jeweller could have made the fundamental mistake of not stamping it. You can not tell the difference when new between rhodium plated white gold and platinum, but an experienced jeweller should be able to determine the type of metal.
Hello there. After only 4 years, a small emerald cut diamond fell out from my eternity ring which is made out of white gold.
I noticed that the ring is slightly oval shaped, no longer perfect circle which surprised me, as I am careful with my jewellery. Possible bad workmanship or white gold just not strong enough?
Each of the 5 emerald cuts. This leaves me wondering as I am about to have my white gold engagement ring reset into 3 large emerald cut diamonds!! Thank you…. Hi, I was just wondering if you wear titanium hardness 6 next to a rhodium plated white gold ring rhodium is hardness 6 whereas gold is 3 will this cause wear? Also, when people talk of the two metals rubbing and wearing, what kind of time frame are they talking about?
Will the rings be significantly damaged within 10 years, say? Hi Jaci It really depends on factors such as the design of the two rings and how they are worn. You might want to consult a jeweller and have the two rings soldered or spot welded together. Hi, I have an engagement ring with an 18ct yellow gold band and a diamond claw set in platinum.
I am looking at a wedding band with a half band of claw set diamonds set in platinum half of the band will be 18ct gold and half platinum. One jeweler recommended a grain set 18ct wedding band rather than claw set — what is your opinion? A grain set wedder would be a good idea as it will wear well over time.
You may also want to investigate joining the wedding band and engagement ring together if you do go for the platinum claw setting.
Thank you ao much for this. My girlfriend, hopefully soon to be fiance, has a gold allergy and I thought platinum was my only option, as a jewellery sales person told me that after the Rhodium plating wore off she would experience allergy symptoms again. Hi Nikhil, My diamond white gold wedding ring lasted only for 6 months and than 3 diamonds fell. The jeweler claimed that it was my fault and that I did not take care of it. After the ring was repaired by the same jeweler, one month later, 2 diamonds fell again.
I requested refund but jeweler accepts only to redo the ring. What would you suggest? Thank you. Dude learn how to write. Less is more bra.
Hello, Please help me! Some kind of rings brake me out n turn my finger green! Hi Mindy It would be best to ask the person you bought it from what alloy the ring is made from. The most common allergy is from nickel, which is a common metal used in white gold in North America.
You may also want to consult your doctor regarding this. Question for you — I had a platinum ring repaired by a jeweler — center stone came loose — and noticed the underside of the ring, looked cleaned up. The ring was not originally made well. Is it possible for a jeweler to take out excess metal from the underside of a platinum ring? Viewing in the loop, it sure looks machine manipulated.
Is 18K white Gold really to soft for a daily ring or is it just what people think? Do most of the ring repairs you do is on 18k not as much on 14 k? I am going to purchasing a. I have been told that the best setting would be a screw style stud with 4 claws.
What would be the best metal combination for the stud? Hi Nikhil, I work in a jewellery store and your article has helped me so much in explaining the pros and cons of each metal to customers. Regarding a white gold band with a platinum setting, how are the metals joined together? Given the differences in malleability and hardness of each metal is there a chance that this may compromise the integrity of the setting? Thanks, Alexandra.
Hi there, Two questions for you out. Firstly what would be a fair price to set a. Just a plain ring with a 4 claw setting. Secondly do you know any talented jewellers in Brisbane that would do a good job. Hi Alexandra Thank you for your input. The setting is soldered on the the shank using white gold solder, and given most rings are made in two or more pieces, the integrity of the setting is not compromised.
Likewise, there is no problem with soldering yellow gold to Platinum. I have just had a platinum wedding made in Thailand where I am living at the moment, the guy in the shop told me it would be 5 mm width and about 20g in weight of platinum PT plain band with a flat top I wanted it to be thick heavy , I was very disappointed when I saw the ring, the weight was only I asked them to melt it down and make a new ring by adding more platinum and to make the ring heavier.
They said it was not possible to melt platinum to do this is that true? He said my only option was to have a a new ring made with new platinum, and I will only get scrap weight for the new ring I just had made. Hi Joel For most jewellers, it is not possible to reliably melt Platinum into a reusable form to re-make a ring.
The head setting for the center stone is the V type setting for a princess cut stone. My question is that since the head setting prongs will also have diamonds in micropave style going up the side of the prongs. Not knowing how this theory relates to microwave, my question is should I still do the head in platinum too or go with white gold to best secure the micropave prong diamonds?
I was told my ring was platinum. Now 36 years later I need to have the ring resized larger. Jeweller told me it was white gold not platinum. It has 18kt stamp. From memory, it may have been lighter in col I ur, but it has never been shiny silver. How can I ensure that if the ring is enlarged, it is made using the same mixture as the original? Hi Sonja An 18kt stamp indicates that it is indeed white gold. A reputable jeweller should be able to size it for you using the same or similar alloy.
Would you recommend a platinum or white gold for the band? After reading your article i am thinking platinum to better hold the smaller diamonds, but you are the expert. Hi Nikhil, I just placed an order for 2 white gold 18 Kt wedding bands with brush finish. I am being told it would turn yellow after 1 year and I would have to polish it. What would you suggest, stick with white or go for platinum instead.
Thanks in advance. Hi Guru It depends on what the white gold is alloyed with. Palladium alloys will stay very white, whilst nickel based alloys will tend to go yellow. Here in Mumbai, India there are very few jewellers who deal in platinum rings or jewellery. I have decided to go with platinum for my anniversary gift. Let see how it turns out to be.. Regards Sanjay. What is whiter in colour — platinum or 18k White gold? In regards to Platinum being re-used — yes — it is possible, but can be very hap-hazard.
Hello, A few questions: do you know any reputable jewlers in bangkok? Main diamond too? Hi Nikhil, I have recently developed an allergy to my 9k and 14k gold jewellery. Do you think it would be safe to assume that I would be fine with any 18k gold, yellow or white?
Or do you recommend switching to white gold or platinum? Also, do you have any recommendations for a jeweller in Brisbane that does 18k gold or platinum earrings without a stone?
Thanks in advance, Bec. Hi Bec It would be best to consult a doctor to confirm your allergy and then seek a non nickel based gold or platinum alloy for jewellery. I love white gold but I find it gets dull fast. Joined Mar 18, Messages 6, Is the dullness or the color bothering you? Polishing your setting will make it shiny again, but polishing gold will cause loss of metal. Rhodium plating looks very white--it does not look like platinum, which is more grey.
Platinum is different, and wears differently. With time, it gets a gray patina lots of scratches. It is not brittle like white gold, so when it gets scratched or polished, the platinum is displaced. There are alloys of white gold that are whiter than others, and are chosen because they do not look as yellow as standard white gold with nickel.
Palladium white gold is one option. This is what I would choose if it were an option it is not with a lot of vendors. It is often not dipped in rhodium because it is quite white. Some prefer it to platinum because like other white golds, it does not get grey patina like platinum. No matter what you plate your ring with, it will wear off. Even if you could plate with platinum, it would wear off just like the rhodium. Rhodium is whiter than platinum, so there's nothing inherently wrong with plating with rhodium versus something else.
Joined Oct 24, Messages Have you double checked the cost on platinum vs WG setting? It seems nominal enough that the cost of plating would get you close to the cost of platinum to begin with You must log in or register to reply here. Be a part of the community It's free, join today! Jewelry Blog. H olloway C ut A dvisor. By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookie policy. One of the reasons is to increase the aesthetic value of a piece, making it more wearable.
Apart from how something looks, the other reason why electroplating or dipping gets done is to increase the value of something. It is a commonplace to find jewelry that, for example, has a later of gold on top of the base material. Therefore, they are willing to settle to having a base metal with a layer of gold. Platinum does not need to get dipped. The reason for that is the metal is incredibly dense, and this extremely durable as well. It can withstand daily wear and what comes with it, including scratches and knocks.
It essentially means that a platinum ring will remain to look new for a very long time. The reality is that platinum is a metal that is excellent at retaining its natural beauty for decades at a time. Some of the reasons some metals need to get dipped are because the base metal can cause a reaction to someone who does have sensitive skin.
When it comes to platinum, that is not the case. The reason for that is that platinum does not contain nickel, which is a common allergen. While platinum is an abundant metal on earth, the issue comes with the extraction of the same.
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